{"id":7408,"date":"2026-07-13T12:30:00","date_gmt":"2026-07-13T12:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/interspacemusic.com\/blog\/bjorn-ulvaeus-ai-training-data-not-outputs-should-trigger-creator-payments\/"},"modified":"2026-07-13T12:30:00","modified_gmt":"2026-07-13T12:30:00","slug":"bjorn-ulvaeus-ai-training-data-not-outputs-should-trigger-creator-payments","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/interspacemusic.com\/blog\/bjorn-ulvaeus-ai-training-data-not-outputs-should-trigger-creator-payments\/","title":{"rendered":"Bj\u00f6rn Ulvaeus: AI Training Data, Not Outputs, Should Trigger Creator Payments"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Bj\u00f6rn Ulvaeus<\/strong>, president of <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cisac.org\">Cisac<\/a> (International Confederation of Societies of Authors and Composers)<\/strong> and co-founder of <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/abbasite.com\">ABBA<\/a><\/strong>, delivered a detailed speech on <a href=\"https:\/\/interspacemusic.com\/blog\/21-million-copyrighted-songs-found-in-ai-training-datasets\/\">artificial intelligence and creator rights<\/a> at the United Nations\u2019 AI for Good Summit in Geneva, arguing that the music industry\u2019s focus on licensing the outputs of generative AI models is misplaced.<\/p>\n<p>Ulvaeus contended that the debate over whether AI-generated tracks infringe copyright by copying existing songs misunderstands how the technology works. \u201cWhat comes out isn\u2019t a copy of any one song. It is a new synthesis built from everything the model has learned,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>He described the emphasis on tracing outputs as \u201calways the wrong question\u201d and urged a shift in focus to the training phase. \u201cThe right question is much simpler. It is about <a href=\"https:\/\/interspacemusic.com\/blog\/the-atlantic-launches-ai-watchdog-tool-to-check-songs-in-training-data\/\">the training<\/a>. Our works went in. We should be paid for what went in, not for every output that comes out the other end, but for the raw material that made the machine what it is.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ulvaeus called on policymakers to support a <a href=\"https:\/\/interspacemusic.com\/blog\/notes-fm-launches-credits-fm-an-open-music-credits-database-for-the-ai-era\/\">collective licensing framework for AI training<\/a>, similar to the model used by music streaming services. \u201cThe infrastructure already exists. The principle is already established. 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